Could this be it ....
Mon, 2010-01-25 16:08
http://montreal.en.craigslist.ca/cto/1564936562.html
'88 Pontiac Safari wagon with a transplanted 307 from a Caddy. I've asked for pics, but he says he's in FL at the moment. He'll try to get his kid to forward some to me.
Opinions? on the caddy (olds?) engine and the base vehicle in general? Oh, It's got the third seat and it's ready for towing.
Getting real farking sick of seeing "We're sorry, but the spam filter thinks your submission could be spam. Please complete the CAPTCHA."
Sun, 2010-06-13 17:35
#2
Oh, my adoring public
If someone would have told me that I'd attract this amount of attention, I'd have said they didn't know squat about cars. If it's not heads turning on the corner, it's the guy next to me at the light wanting to talk about it. Admiration from the guy with the convertible mustang, Hi-sign from the t-top Iroc.
Mon, 2010-06-07 10:31
#3
No no no no no no
*sob* Well, I jacked up the Parisienne to put on the summer tires. Took the time to shake on the tie rods and ball joints ..... and take a gander underneath. Well ... I know the Olds 307s are backed with a 200r4 ... and usually the Chevy 305 has the 700r4 ... right? Well, that's no 700r4 oil pan I see on the tranny. This one looks like a square with one corner cut off .... Frig, so much for overdrive. I'd wondered at the D on the shifter not having the white oval around it. Now I know. Damnit damnit damnit. Now I gotta go under and start looking for numbers to see if it's a TH350 or a TH200. There goes my towing capacity out the window.
On another note, the factory jack is superb. A cross between an old bumper jack and a hydraulic floor jack. Fast, strong and reliable, with an enormous footprint. I'm gonna have to hunt up two or three more of these at the bone yards. I far prefer these over the screw jacks. I'd almost be willing to go under the car without jack stands on this one. Almost.
Sun, 2010-06-13 14:44
#4
yea odd year for gm, it is
yea odd year for gm, it is hard to tell what it could b based on year, but it sounds like u have a turbo 350 in your car, 4 spd's have the ring around the D and the square with a corner cut off is a T350 pan (although i have never seen a 200r4 i would imagine they would have used them in a car that is much smaller than you poncho. fear not for your gas milage though, the trans in your car has a 3rd gear lockup so it acts like a 4th gear, i have had 1 in a '81 malibu with a 267 and it got almost god-like milage, it cost me $10 for 2 hrs of driving each day. the lockup trans isnt the strongest trans ever made, but it is much better than the 200r4, if u were to put a shiftkit in it to give u the firmer shifts, and maybe put the lockup on a switch (to use only while on the hioghway) i think u would b more than pleased by it
Fri, 2010-05-21 14:16
#5
And it's out
The front seat that is. Not moving yet, but at least it's unbolted from the floor. Not sure how I'm gonna get home now, but that's a problem for later.
Sat, 2010-05-15 12:29
#6
OHMIGAWD, I LOVE IT
Sitting at a light in the Parisienne, a Prius pulls up beside me. I couldn't help myself. I just looked at him and laughed, and laughed. The guy looked somewhere between sick and offended.
Fri, 2010-05-21 10:08
#7
Me again
for some reason, I keep finding Prius's everywhere. And making their owners cry. Had some punk kid ina Civic pull up beside me with his subs going. I dropped into neutral and made a little noise of my own. Made him cry too.
Then I got to the gas pump and then it was my turn to cry. $45 for a week's commuting ... of under 10 miles a day, and I've got a pretty light foot. I'm guessing a significant tune up is in the books. She smelled pretty strongly of gas whenever I shut her down. I've since run Seafoam down the carb, and half the bottle into the gastank. The smell's improved, and while I got a fair smoke show for pouring it into the intake, the cloud was white, not black.
Tue, 2010-05-11 07:39
#8
Evaluation done
The guys at the evaluation company I found are top notch. They've put mo on the rush list. Got someone out to me within hours. The report has to be official like, tho, so he couldn't give it to me on the spot, but I should have it in hand by noon.
Wed, 2010-05-05 16:40
#9
Well ... that wasn't it.
Whatever forces guide me continue to have their hands firmly on my reigns. I had the feeling that the Safari wasn't meant to happen, nor any of the other possibilities that have cropped up over the intervening months. Call me superstitious, but I know the feeling when I'm being nudged about.
Well, on the way to my work every day, I passed an 80 something gold Pontiac. Big ol' sedan, in good shape. Real eye catcher. Every day, twice a day I'd drive past it. Every day, I'd eyeball it. Then the day before yesterday, it's place was taken by a newer Caddy. My heart dropped. Then as I drove past, I spotted it parked up the side road from the house. I figured it was a goner. On the way home, it was in the same spot. Yesterday, going to work, it hadn't moved either. But .... (you know what's coming) ... on the way home .... FOR SALE! Stopped, got the number ... gave it a solid once over ... and had to control myself very carefully to not get half a dozen tickets on the way home. Why didn't I knock on the door, you ask? Because I wasn't carrying my cheque book. I wasn't leaving anything to chance. Got home, told the missus, and started dialing. He was going out, but he'd be back by 8:30. yes, yes, yes. No. The phone rang minutes later. His missus was going to take care of what he had been going out for ... I could come now if I liked. YES, YES, YES!!!!!
Took the entire family, i wasn't leaving anything to chance. Everyone prowled over it. Everyone looked for some reason to say no ... and came up with bubkis. He was asking $1500 .. I was going to talk him down to $1200 .... until he threw in the mags, summer tires, and roof rack. OK, let's be honest. At this point .. All I want is to give this guy money and get his name on paper.
Well ... the Caddy's gone to paint, so he still needs this until Saturday. Saturday noon, It's MINE. And what is it?
A gold 1985 Pontiac Parisienne Brougham. All the bells and whistles. A little rust on the doors, but the body was shot with rust proofing every year since '85. The car was bought new by his wife's father, and left to him. All maintenance was done without hesitation, including changing the AC to the new freon from R-12. Original sticker and all the bills for the last 25 years with it.
the only problem ... the electric seat is frozen in one spot. The motor runs, but can't move the seat. He's 6', I'm .... shorter. Shouldn't be that big an issue tho.
So, the search is over, and now the fun begins. Anyone able to decode the VIN to tell me about the engine, tranny and diff? It's definitely a quadrajet. I believe it's a 307, mated to a 200r4, but I keep hearing noise that this car came with a 305 backed with a 700r4, and a limited slip diff.
Mon, 2010-05-10 09:26
#10
Do you have any pics
Do you have any pics Pro? And did you figure out what drive train it has in it? If it's an Olds it'll have the big oil filler at the front of the engine and the vin for the engine will be at the front drivers side of the block by where the head meets the block on a little pad.
We have that same thing here in Texas anything past 1988 has to have an appraisal for the Taxes. And then theres the SPV. Past 88 they tell YOU what your cars value is. And even if it's a pile of shi* they still charge you the same amount of tax. I have a loop hole though. If you know someone with a dealer license they can fill out the appraisal form from the tax office with a value. You might be able to do the same there if you know someone with a dealer license. Another thing I'll tell you is that the form they have here doesn't have a place to put the phone number or dealer license information. So they don't even verify it. I've had to get four appraisals done, and only a couple where.... 
Pretty stupid huh?
Mon, 2010-05-10 15:57
#11
Pics, I've got a few, but then again, no way to post them
sorry. I'll swipe the girl's camera and take a few ... but it'll be awhile to charge. I'm waiting on the evaluator calling me right now ... I'm his next appointment. Shouldn't be a problem.
Alright, which one of you brastiches squeeled on me? I called the insurance this morning to extend my policy to cover, and for the first time ever ... got the Nth degree. Will I be leaving the province with it ... will I be racing, road rallying, or towing cars with it. *** .... who ratted me out???
Sat, 2010-05-08 19:22
#12
Fark fark fark
Ran into a roadblock today. Took posession of the keys, went to the DMV to register the sale .... and they wouldn't let me. Since the car is 25 years old, it's 'classic' and has to under go an estimate. Not an inspection to see if it's roadworthy ... but an estimate to see how much tax they can gouge from the sale. It's going to cost me $100+ for the privelege of paying an additional $4 in tax. Bastards.
On the other hand, the owner gave me ... every repair receipt for the car for the last 25 years. A folder nearly 2 inches thick. Also the Hayes manuals for the car, the engines and for the rochester carbs ... $75 worth of manuals. AND ... the original sales invoice, pamphlet and key tags (with the numbers to cut brand new keys) all kinds of goodness.
Sun, 2010-05-09 13:46
#13
man u have some wierd laws in
man u have some wierd laws in the sates, in BC i tell the owner of the car ill give him the asking price if he puts on the papers that i bought it for $100, works every time
Sun, 2010-05-09 21:33
#14
Same here
right up until it crosses 25 and become a 'classic'.
But, the same rules allow me to plate it as a classic. Plates cost peanuts, but I can't take it on the highway then. That kinda defeats the purpose to me, but for someone wanting a trailer queen, I can see it making sense. In the mean time, I'm looking into dual fuel propane conversions for it. Still have gas for long hauls, but having propane for daily driving would be peachy. It's not like a 22G tank in that trunk is going to be all that noticable.
Sat, 2010-05-08 12:44
#15
clean the back of the block
clean the back of the block off and copy down the #'s on it and do a search, i dont know where to look, i usually just give the 3's to the local parts store to look em up. i had an 81 presienne yrs ago (old , big body style) i loved that car it rode like a cloud and somebody had put 4:11 gears in it so it went like a very large rocket, i even beat a rs camaro with it. good luck with yours
Wed, 2010-04-28 22:38
#16
Still not back
He's still not back, but I might have found something sweeter
http://lespac.canadaplus.ca/d-vehicules-antiques-collection-st-henri-che...
Thu, 2010-04-29 11:28
#17
Is there a picture in that
Is there a picture in that link? And whats with the forign language?
Fri, 2010-04-30 09:28
#18
It's a French Canadian thing.
It's a French Canadian thing. We and most of the rest of North America simply don't understand it.
Thu, 2010-04-29 11:44
#19
No pics
It's a '74 Caprice convertible with a '71 Biscayne parts car for $2000.
Thu, 2010-04-29 14:15
#20
That's a lot of car. But I
That's a lot of car. But I guess not more then the other one. I found one here.
http://www.gatewayclassiccars.com/displaycar.php?stock=2976&location=STL
Tue, 2010-03-09 17:46
#21
A few sites for
A few sites for insperation.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJpC3w56KjU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HeeYYupQIJA
http://performanceolds307.tripod.com/
http://www.442.com/oldsfaq/ofe307.htm
and in case you don't want the ice cream to melt on the way home http://www.dyersblowers.com/1694.html
good luck buddy
Sun, 2010-03-07 13:45
#22
Less than a month to go
Well, I've spent the last month shopping about and test driving, and still haven't found anything I want more than this car. Took out a 2004 Blazer last week, and .... naw, not happening.
The problem I'm running into is that there's not a whole lot of info on the web about this model. What I've found is that it's probably a quadrajet carb, 200r4 with trailing arm suspension. Carb may or may not be computer controlled.
Now this is on the other side of town, so I don't want to be running back and forth looking at this, and I sure don't want to be paying a garage to eyeball it for me ... so I need you guys to give me a hitlist of things to check. Already on the list is
Intake and carb. Just a flashlight down the pipes looking for yellow.
Plugs. At least 2 plugs get pulled and the colour checked.
Before starting it, a look the oil on the dipstick and tranny dipstick.
magnet check the toeboards.
Somethings I'd like to do, but I'm not going to be able to do it in the guy's driveway would be drain the oil completely and check the oilpan magnet and check the fuel filter.
I'd like to be able to not only make the decision within an hour, but to be able to close the sale and drive it home all in the same trip. That's not to say I'm going to leave it alone when I get it home, tho. I've already found someone with remaned long block 307s for $1700 with a 7 year warranty ... but given that the olds small block flexes out to 400cid without having to replace everything under the hood ....
Talk to me guys.
Sun, 2010-03-07 16:23
#23
The Safari is essentially the
The Safari is essentially the Pontiac Parisenne station wagon. The Parisenne at this point was a Pontiac-ized version of the Chevy Caprice - built in Oshawa I think. So it a full frame RWD car. All Caprice/Impalas had computer command controlled Rochester 4-bbl carbs with the 307 or 350 V8s.
The Chevy Caprices were used for police interceptors (under 9C1 option) in the States and Canada, so you should be able to improve handling and performance with those parts. You are correct, it has a TH200-4R tranny although the last interceptos may have had the 700-R4. It should have a tall rear gear for mileage, 2.73 or 3.08 typically. The police interceptors had 350 Chevy V8s. So any SBC will bolt up into that engine bay.
Definitely need to use the magnet test to look for bondo in the lower fenders, doors, and rear quarters and such. I am sure you knew that.
The 307 is essentially the small bore/stroke version of the Olds 403 small block. So you can use some of those parts to beef up torque and performance.
Brakes should be standard front disc and rear drums. You might want to consider inspecting the front rotors for galling, rust, and pitting. If you check the oil, why not get a brake fluid test strip and check for copper in the fluid. The fluid could be old and containminated - which means replacing too. Are you going to inpect the tranny fluid too for burnt smell or discoloration? Also check the radiator and test the fluid after the motor warms up. You don't need rust in your cooling system.
Fri, 2010-01-29 12:25
#24
Disbelief
His last reply
Hello again,
You can see the car, but there's no one there to let you try it as I'm in Florida & won't be back till mid-April.Sorry about that.
It's parked in front of xxx Ste XXXX st, in Ste Anne de Bellevue.
Denis
I wanna cry
Fri, 2010-01-29 10:58
#25
I'm worried
Usually about this point someone at home would have told me I was nuts even thinking about this land yacht, but noone has. That's freaking me out a little. But I went and emailed the guy asking for a time to go see it.
http://www.whatareyouworkinon.com/content/land-yacht-2
http://www.whatareyouworkinon.com/content/land-yacht
http://www.whatareyouworkinon.com/content/land-yacht-1
Feel free to voice any questions you think I should ask.
His reply to my initial email
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Hello,
Yes, It has the third seat, no, there isn.t much rust.
It's in pretty good shape.
I.m presently in Florida, so there's a problem there.
the engine is from a 1988 Cadilac ,and it's the standard 307 cube engine.
I pulled a camper trailer with it last summer.
I use it only in the summer. It's parked for the winter right now.
I'll see if my son can sen me some picks fom my PC at home, then i"l be able to send you pictures.
Denis
So we know the photos aren't completely current.
Thu, 2010-01-28 09:03
#26
gas mileage
I'm reading that this beast gets between 18 and 20 average MPG. The computer on the Caravan I'm driving now gives me 15 city. Don't really do enough highway to have a figure for that.
Thu, 2010-01-28 13:15
#27
The mileage on those was not bad for a car that size.
As for the bumper I do know that there are a few in the wrecking yards around here. If you end up getting it I could look around for you.
Wed, 2010-01-27 18:15
#28
photos
just got them. Burgundy, bumper is rusted out, but there's no rust on the body visible. Pics are a bit long range tho. Need to be to fit the entire boat in.
Wed, 2010-01-27 09:48
#29
He still hasn't gotten back to me yet
CC, I thought most of those came with the 200R4. The 305 got the 700R4, the 307 got the 200R4 because the 700R4 doesn't natively bolt to the BOCP pattern.
Wed, 2010-01-27 15:08
#30
Brain fart
For some reason I forgot that the 307 that they were using in the 80's was the Buick/Cadillac one.
Tue, 2010-01-26 22:20
#31
But, but, but,....
I thoguht I was Cuzin Eddie!!
Wed, 2010-01-27 15:09
#32
You can be Cuzin Eddie!
G.E. can be Grandma
Mon, 2010-01-25 20:16
#33
*
Sweet you are getting the Griswold Truckster. So does this make G.E. Eddie.
Seriously I have worked on those cars and they are fairly easy but the emissions from the 80's get in the way. Good all around cars though. 307 has good torque and cruises nice just keep an eye on the 700r4 but I think a lot of those cars came with the truck ones.
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The guy with the Safari contacted me today to see if I was still interested .... 7 freaking months late. What an arrogant prig. I think someone's going to get some of his time wasted for a change